tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3068729084407027179.post3299297098411875374..comments2024-03-27T01:45:16.223-04:00Comments on NoExcusesHR: Are You Certifiable?Jay Kuhns, SPHRhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05813031657500594380noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3068729084407027179.post-14846146159538212002011-07-15T19:01:05.839-04:002011-07-15T19:01:05.839-04:00Many thanks for the comment William. Your follow ...Many thanks for the comment William. Your follow up on the job board further illustrates that HR has not positioned itself effectively yet in the world of credentials and certification. There is no doubt an MBA is a terrific path to follow; but in addition, the appropriate HR certification is also valuable in a different way.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3068729084407027179.post-20465718484864294702011-07-14T22:05:33.573-04:002011-07-14T22:05:33.573-04:00This is always an interesting debate. Trish broug...This is always an interesting debate. Trish brought up an interesting point. Here's my take: do what you need to do to get you where you want to go. Whether its certification, or an advanced degree, do what makes sense for you. I think the key is to continue learning and growing, and there is no shortage of formal programs to help.<br /><br />In a super-scientific survey, I went to a job board and looked at the first 5 VP of HR postings that were listed. Only one required an advanced degree, and only one required SPHR certification. 4 of the 5 preferred both. All of them had specific requirements for previous experience.<br /><br />Not everyone wants to be a VP of HR (and there is good reason for that), but hopefully everyone has specific career goals and a plan to achieve them. Having said all of that, I do support professional certification, especially for the more talented in our profession. Taking the time and putting the effort into certifying lends credibility to the credentials for everyone.wllmgouldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10122775323382687052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3068729084407027179.post-76872216872321444682011-07-14T17:39:29.805-04:002011-07-14T17:39:29.805-04:00Great video Ben...thanks for sharing. There is no...Great video Ben...thanks for sharing. There is no doubt it's an apples to oranges comparison. IF (that's a big if) money and time are not issues...go for both!Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3068729084407027179.post-8569137563053176432011-07-14T13:30:55.370-04:002011-07-14T13:30:55.370-04:00Hey, Jay! I'm always hot on this one. I did a ...Hey, Jay! I'm always hot on this one. I did a video at one point to cover my thoughts on it. Feel free to continue the convo here after you check it out. <br />http://upstarthr.com/should-i-get-an-mba-or-an-sphr-or-phr/Ben Eubankshttp://upstarthr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3068729084407027179.post-51987528271862684132011-07-14T13:06:45.935-04:002011-07-14T13:06:45.935-04:00Thanks for the comment Trish. It's probably i...Thanks for the comment Trish. It's probably important to ensure we don't put the years of work and thousands of dollars necessary to achieve an MBA on the same plane with one of these certifications. Since the exams cover the tremendous breadth of HR, I'm sure most practitioners will not find daily examples of how their certification impacts their practice. However, I do believe that having an accepted body of professional knowledge, and an appropriate and rigorous process to test for it, supports HR as a "legitimate" profession versus being a necessary transactional evil.<br /><br />I love the debate! Curious about others points of view.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3068729084407027179.post-40107084475181628842011-07-14T06:46:36.302-04:002011-07-14T06:46:36.302-04:00This is one I disagree with. Had I buckled down a...This is one I disagree with. Had I buckled down and took it earlier in my career it would have been better but after almost twenty years as a practitioner, I don't see value studying to the test. I've heard from more people who have taken it that it doesn't really provide a benefit to them unless they do not have the experience in the field yet. That said, I spend my time learning and taking courses more about finance and communication. If I were to more formally spend time on something, it would be on an MBA (in addition to the MA in HR I have). I see the MBA having a greater impact on the ability of a HR pro to progress instead of the PHR. At least that's the advice I'd give to someone entering the HR industry. Just my two cents. I'd love to hear how others weigh in.Trish McFarlanehttp://hrringleader.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3068729084407027179.post-70429346503166462712011-07-13T01:13:28.627-04:002011-07-13T01:13:28.627-04:00Couldn't agree more William.Couldn't agree more William.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3068729084407027179.post-8167016778183555972011-07-13T00:04:02.113-04:002011-07-13T00:04:02.113-04:00hardest test i've ever taken... but glad i did...hardest test i've ever taken... but glad i did it... and, thusly, i'll never let the cert lapse.<br /><br />williamwilliam tincuphttp://www.tincup.comnoreply@blogger.com